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Small Hard Dog Lumps All Over Body

by Hannah W.
(Thursday Island, Queensland, Australia)

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About a week after I got my dog, he started to get lumps over his back and rump and the sides of his back legs. To me it looked like insect bites.


I consulted the vet that visits here (there is no resident vet one just visits every 6 weeks or so) and she said it was probably hives, but they did not irritate him at all and I had never seen him scratch (and he didn't have any scratch marks).

I started to wipe him over in a solution of Teatree oil to keep insects off of him in case that was the problem, but there was no change or improvement. More bumps started to appear as the initial bumps went down after a couple of days, leaving a sort of scar in its place, like a fleck/small patch of missing hair.

He also started to get small lumps everywhere; on the sides of his face, around his neck, on his back, all his legs, and some on his belly and insides of his legs but they are not worse than in other places. The lumps are like spots but hard and turn crusty on top.

I then went away on holiday for a month, but whilst I was away he was due his second vaccination and there was no one here who would have been able to do it. I consulted the vet who visits here again and she said it was ok to give him the second vaccination after only giving him his first one 3 weeks earlier and was better than giving it to him 7 weeks later than the first one.

Whilst I was away he had a tiff with our other dog and got a puncture wound in his ear and grazes on his legs. He was put on amoxyl 400 antibiotics for about 10 days I believe.

Healing did not happen as quick as was hoped and he was put on a further course of antibiotics. As I was not present at this time I was not fully informed about his skin condition as attention was directed to healing his wounds.

On my return (4 weeks later) his wound had completely healed but his skin had shown no improvement, just more scars where there had been more lumps. I also discovered that the ear that had been damaged was red, swollen and dirty inside, so I treated it with ear drops and the ear returned to normal after a few days.

I took a close look at some of the lumps on his skin and they mostly they appear hard and red with a small scab with pus over the top. They then go down and leave a horrible hairless mark.

He has never scratched the lumps or anywhere on his skin, and they do not seem to be itchy or irritate him at all, and he is very happy in himself; active, and I have never seen him scratch. He is now starting to lose his hair around his neck, on his back and on his back end and legs.

I have tried washing him with Pyohex shampoo every few days these last 2 weeks which doesn't seem to have helped really, and a friend gave me some Filta bac cream to try which does help a bit with redness and inflammation but then the problem continues elsewhere on his body. Plus it's a mission to put on patches that are all over his body!

I have made sure he is up to date on worm, flea and tick treatments and have never seen any fleas or ticks on him or on the bedding. I treated him with advocate.

Some background...

In February I rescued a bull terrier across from Blacktown pound near Sydney. When I got him he looked in good health with good skin and coat. He is all white with a black nose with a few black skin spot patches but no black fur.

He was vaccinated and desexed about 3 days before he was sent to me. I live on an island right in the north of Queensland where it is tropical and so it would have been a significant climate change for him, and it is now coming towards the end of the summer here and it is humid and hot.
In winter it is still hot just not as humid.

None of our other dogs have this condition and I have a small white husky / mini foxy and she has no problems. I called the pound where he came from to ask what he was being fed and they said a combination of dry food called coprice (which contains grains) and mince.

I used to feed him lots of different foods with the other dogs but now I have eliminated grains from his diet and he now gets lentils, vegetables, raw/cooked meat and bones, a dash of olive oil and fish oil capsules (which he has always had in his food since being with me) and a spoon of apple cider vinegar.

He does not go out in the sun much at all as when I am at work he is shut on the veranda which is completely shaded from the sun. I have ripped out plants that I think may be causing/contributing to this condition but that was only a few days ago, so might be too early to tell yet.

The places on him where the lumps were do not heal quick, as I said they leave a hairless, scar like mark and his hair is getting thinner and thinner on his back, neck and legs. There will be a day where I will see some improvement (less inflammation, some lumps gone down) and the next it has flared up again and he has some new lumps appear.

I have tried to do some research and as he is not irritated or itchy at all i have read about a few conditions, such as folliculitis and solar dermatitis which sort of sound like and look like what it could be, but I do not know enough.

I want to get a skin biopsy taken but the vet is not due up for another 3 weeks, but I will ask to do it when she comes. I would like another opinion anyway and thought maybe in the mean time I might get some suggestions of what to try that might help or sort it out!

He is just such a beautiful boy and this condition is really making him look like I don't look after him!

I look forward to hearing from you
Many thanks,
Hannah

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Apr 10, 2013
My Online Vet Response for: Small Hard Dog Lumps All Over Body
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Hannah,

Thursday Island,Queensland, Australia has no regular veterinarian so I am sure it would be hard to locate a holistic Vet!! I will do the best I can from the other side of the world in the USA!!

From the photos you sent of your newly adopted dog, the lesions/eruptions appear to be a condition called *Sebaceous Adenitis*. This is an auto-immune disease and can be diagnosed by skin biopsy. I am suspicious that the amount of stress he was subjected to plus being recently neutered, vaccinated, (and given boosters too?), using Advocate topical, and moved from Sydney in the south of Australia to the very most northern point of Australia on Thursday Island, may have triggered it.

The diet you have him on sounds wonderful! Although, I would NOT advise feeding *cooked* bones. RAW bones are fine.

Here are some suggestions that may help until you find out more from a skin biopsy.

1. Do a weekly massage with coconut oil. Allow it to soak in for 2-3 hours. (He may need to be confined away from the furniture, and away from the dirt outside.) Bathe him with Dawn Dish Detergent to remove the oil, if he is still greasy. Rinse, and then do a second shampoo with a Baby shampoo.

If the oil has completely soaked in, and he is not greasy, then just shampoo with baby shampoo.

2. Start giving him some Immune supplements to help his immune system : 1. Missing Link Canine Formula
2. Immuplex from Standard Process
3. OrthoMolecular Specialties, Mega C Powder

3. Give him the homeopathic remedy Apis mellifica 30c or 200c. One time daily for the next 3 days. Then one time per week for 3 weeks. You can give homeopathic remedies by dry pellet, pour one pellet into the cap, pull out your dog's lower lip at the corner, and just drop the pellet into the space between his lip and his gum. (*Note- you are not supposed to touch the pellets with your fingers.) He does not need to swallow the pellet for it to be effective, it only needs to come into contact with his mucous membranes. If he does swallow it, that is fine too.

Your other option is to dissolve one pellet into a glass eyedropper bottle (1 or 2 oz) and fill with Spring Water. Shake the bottle against the palm of your hand, called 'succussing' the remedy, and give him 1 dropperful of the liquid one time daily for 3 days.

4. NO MORE VACCINATIONS

5. NO ADVOCATE OR OTHER TOPICAL FLEA/TICK/WORM preventive. Try - Wondercide

6. No topical ointments or creams, these will only clog his sebaceous glands even more.

Best of luck to you, and let me know if I can help any further.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.




Apr 10, 2013
response to question
by: Hannah W

Hi Dr. Tillman

thank you for your quick and informative response.
I will follow your advice as much as I can but getting products to such a remote location will take time and I have to find a company that ships them here also! If you know of any companies that you can suggest that ships internationally from the US for the homeopathic remedy please let me know.
I will immediately put into effect what I can from your advice until I have further information to go on from a skin biopsy which I will get done as soon as I can.

If it is the disease you suspect, is it possible it can just go away by itself over time? With him getting accustomed to the climate change, with the continuation of a good diet, and with the immune system supplements and treatments you suggest?
Or would his skin only recover and is the disease only most likely subside if he was moved back to a cooler climate?
Am I still able to post in the future to update you on any progress?

Many thanks for your time and knowledge
Best regards
Hannah

Apr 12, 2013
My Online Vet Response for: Small Hard Dog Lumps All over Body
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Hannah,

You wrote,

"Getting products to such a remote location will take time...will be hard to find a company that ships them here... If you know of any companies that you can suggest that ships internationally from the US for the homeopathic remedy please let me know."

You should be able to contact a health food store in Port Douglas or Cairns that carries homeopathic remedies for people. Apis is a VERY common remedy, used for insect stings. It is included in every homeopathic first aid kit. You do not need to have it shipped from the USA!

You wrote,
"Is is possible it can just go away by itself over time?"

Of course, that is very possible. Especially by improving his diet, boosting the immune system and no more vaccinations. It is not unusual at all for an autoimmune disease to go into remission.

You wrote,
"or would his skin only recover if he is moved back to a cooler climate?"

No, I think the move was only an additional stress that 'pushed his system over the limit' so that he was unable to cope. But it is interesting that in the remedy Apis, (which is derived from the stinger of a honey bee), one of the symptoms that calls for the use of Apis is WORSE in hot weather.

You wrote,
"Am I still able to post in the future to update you on any progress?"

Yes, you certainly can. Keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman


DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.


Apr 13, 2013
response to question
by: Hannah W

Hi Dr. Tillman

thank you again for your reply.
I have managed to locate some Apis online and so am waiting for it to arrive. I have started with coconut oil soaks already, and his skin looked better the day after but then the second day his coat looked dull and moth eaten again and there were a few more bumps on his legs. There aren't as many swellings as there was on his back, but his hair is still shedding somewhat, and he seems balder on his back legs. However it doesn't seem quite as bad on his back. I am still sorting out getting the immune boosters here (those products don't ship direct to Australia) but are normal human vitamin tablets ok until I can get some of the supplements you recommended?

Many thanks
Hannah

Apr 14, 2013
My Online Vet Response for: Small Hard Dog Lumps All Over Body
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Hannah,

You wrote,

"I am still sorting out getting the immune boosters here.... are normal human vitamin tablets ok until I can get some of the supplements you recommended?"

Some of the human vitamin tablets contain Vitamin C, which is Ascorbic Acid. This is too acidic for a dog's stomach. (Their stomachs contain 10X the amount of HCl acid than humans.) And there are several other vitamins and minerals, that in the human supplement would be too much, or the 'wrong' form.

Best to wait until you get the supplements I suggested, and work on diet and the bathing at this time. Which sounds like he may be showing a bit of improvement!

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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- Ask a Vet Online Library - Dog Skin Rashes, Marks, Spots, Lesions & Patches (including itchy skin and mange) Section,
- Ask a Vet Online Library - Dog Hair Loss Section

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.



Jun 17, 2015
my dog I noticed small hard lumps all over my dog he bite and lick what canI do
by: Anonymous

my dog has small hard lumbs all over his back I just noticed it this morning he bites at it and and licks try to scratch it what is this

Jun 17, 2015
My Online Vet Response for: Small Hard Dog Lumps All Over Body
by: Dr Carol Jean Tillman

June 17, 2015

Dear Anonymous,

At this time, I am no longer consulting for the Organic Pet Digest. It would be best for you to locate a holistic veterinarian nearby.

To find a holistic veterinarian in your area click on the link below
Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.

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