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Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia

by Mimi J.
(Piedmont, California)

My Black Lab Bear

My Black Lab Bear

My otherwise healthy Black Lab, Bear, 16 months, had Giardia and was treated twice for it when he was 18 weeks old, right after coming from the breeder. Recently, after 1 year, he came down with Coccidia and Round Worms!!


For Coccidia and roundworms I had been giving him 3 caps of DGL Plus and 3 caps AP Mag 2 x per day with bland diet, chicken/sweet pot. or chick/rice.

Roundworm treatment was food grade diatemacious earth for 2 months. This week his stool test was normal but it was diarrhea and I know you can get false negative with parasites.

We were one week in Tahoe. While there he ate bland diet and I started to increase his commercial food adding in more of the Freeze Dried Raw Honest Kitchen. He was tolerating 1/3 cup and I increased it to near a full cup. He was having normal stools

When we returned from Lake Tahoe he started having diarrhea and vomiting. He had x ray and does not have obstruction. X ray shows inflammation in the colon. He is on Sucralfate it is not helping. Just started slippery elm today.

Is this bacterial?

They want to use Metronidozole. With his history of giardia and coccidia and immunosuppression I do NOT want to give him anymore synthetic antibiotics. Please help. The diarrhea is going on 4 days.

Currenty trying slippery elm. Local vet has used clay and probiotics

How do I stop this diarrhea. Do I fast him? (I fasted him for 1 day, two days ago. Did NOT help.) Not fast him? Is there an herbal remedy for diarrhea I can try such as Coptis or Goldenseal? Help!!!

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Aug 19, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 19, 2014

Hi Mimi,
For Bear, do not fast him. Feed him a bland diet, the same as you did when you were in Tahoe. Add acidophilus to each meal. Find a brand such as PB8, in a capsule form, open the capsule and sprinkle it into the food. He needs to take 1/3 the human dose. This will provide the 'good' bacteria back into his intestine.

From your history of Bear being treated twice for Giardia at 18 weeks, after coming from breeder, and then after one year he had Coccidia and Roundworms, I am very suspicious that this may be associated with vaccinations. In holistic medicine, a condition called *VACCINOSIS* is characterized by individuals that have chronic illness after a vaccine. The homeopathic remedy called Thuya, (Thuja occidentalis), is useful for this problem. In fact, looking up the symptom *diarrhea after vaccination* shows Thuya to be one of the top remedies!

This does not sound like a bacterial infection. I suggest you try:
1. Acidophilus
2. Rescue Remedy-add 2-3 drops to the water bowl two times daily. This will help to 'calm' the colon. Continue for 3-6 weeks.
3. Thuya 12C--dissolve one pellet in a 2 oz glass dropper bottle. Give Bear 1/2 dropperful by mouth two times daily.

4. Slippery Elm--you can continue Slippery elm 4-6 times daily, for diarrhea, for 3-5 days.

When his stool is starting to improve, decrease the bland food, and increase his commercial food adding in more of the Freeze Dried Raw Honest Kitchen.

You mentioned your veterinarian used the 'clay' and probiotics. If the Slippery Elm is not helping, perhaps, KaoPectate will be more effective: Veterinary Kao-Pectate, which is Kaolin (clay) and Pectin, (from apples). Give 1 TBSP by mouth (or in food) 3 times daily for 4-5 days for diarrhea. DO NOT use over the counter human KaoPectate, which contains aspirin.

To find a holistic veterinarian in your area click on the link below
Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Aug 19, 2014
Follow up for Bear
by: Anonymous

Dr. Tillman

THANK YOU! What you are saying makes perfect sense!

I am very concerned about the continuing diarrhea as I have an auto immune condition (compromised gut myself) and have two children in the house the and watery diarrhea for 4 days was starting to become a hazard to my family. My local vet told me that one short dose of Metronizonole would calm the inflammation and stop the diarrhea so today I caved and gave him ONE pill of his 5 day corse of metronidazole (UGH!!)

Is it safe to stop the 5 day course after I have started it and proceed with your recommendations??

I was just starting to panic about the watery diarrhea in our house in the morning (he goes in the night when we are sleeping). Thank you for any thoughts!

Aug 20, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 20, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"Is it safe to stop the 5 day course after I have started it and proceed with your recommendations?"

Of course.

Save the tablets, so you can always use them as a *last* resort if the suggestions I offer are not effective.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.


Aug 20, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 20, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"Is it safe to stop the 5 day course after I have started it and proceed with your recommendations?"

Of course.

Save the tablets, so you can always use them as a *last* resort if the suggestions I offer are not effective.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.


Aug 21, 2014
how long for the homeopathic remedy
by: Mimi

Thank you Dr. Tillman!

How long do I treat him with the Homeopathic remedy Thuja? Also my local holistic pharmacy (Pharmaca) had only the Boiron Thuja 6c not the 12. They assured me that it would be ok? I started it today.

Aug 21, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 20, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You will need to treat with the Thuya for at least 3-6 weeks maybe longer. Especially, with such a low potency as the 6C.

Keep us posted.

Come back to this page and click the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Aug 25, 2014
Bear Update
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman

Bear is taking his homeopathy and rescue remedy for inflammed GI for Vaccinosis. Now he is having mucous in his stool. He used to have this when he had worms and coccidia. I am going to get him retested for both. Should I just continue with the rescue remedy and Thuya while he has mucous in his stool and just give it more time? Or is there something else I should do for the mucous? He is still taking clay and probiotics in his food. I was going to continue the clay only for a few more days.

Thank you!

Aug 25, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 25, 2014

Hi Mimi,

You wrote,
"Now he is having mucous in his stool....Should I just continue with the rescue remedy and Thuya while he has mucous in his stool and just give it more time?"

Is the stool formed, or is it still diarrhea?

If the stool is improved, and has form, then decrease the Thuya to every other day. But continue the Rescue Remedy.

If Bear still has diarrhea, then continue with everything, Thuya, Rescue Remedy, kaopectate and acidophilus.

Regarding Coccidia and roundworms, you wrote,
"I am going to get him retested for both." It would be best to wait until the stool is more solid and back to normal first.

You wrote,
"I was going to continue the clay only for a few more days."
If the stool is still loose, you may need to continue it for another 5-7 days.

Keep us posted!

Come back to this page and click the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Aug 26, 2014
Bear Update
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman,

Bear's stools DID start to improve with the clay and the things you suggested.

Then I added in some Honest Kitchen Chicken/potato food. He started having diarrhea, mucous, and blood in his stool when I increased the Honest Kitchen. I think Honest Kitchen has FLAX as the second ingredient. Even though flax is considered "healthy" by a lot of people, my personal holistic Dr. says it can be VERY irritating to the GI (she will not let ME eat it, as I have IBS and other things) because of the fiber.

So I am going back to bland diet. But I don't know WHAT FOOD to feed him. He is a 70 lb dog. And while I don't mind feeding him some fresh food, the chicken/rice diet is really hard to keep up with a busy family.

Can you please advise me about what FOOD to transition him to? He has mostly eaten chicken and sweet potatoes and rice his whole life. He has eaten a tiny bit of fish and venison many months back as treats but not much.

THANK YOU!!!

Aug 26, 2014
Dog food
by: Anonymous

Sorry Dr. TIllman, I am not sure If I have exceeded my 3 questions. Some were a follow up to your original recommendations, and some are updates, and now I have a new question about food.

Please advise and I will pay for another question.

Should I feed him Instict raw chicken? You seem to like the Instict Brand? It seems he needs a very slow transition. He has been on bland diet for so long though I am worried he has lost a lot of nutrition.

Thank you!
Mimi

Aug 26, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 26, 2014

Hi Mimi,
It sounds like you need to continue with everything, Thuya, Rescue Remedy, kaopectate and acidophilus.

Instinct raw chicken is good. Also Primal, Bravo, Nature's Variety are good brands too. It just depends on Bear's digestive tract and what he can handle. If he is doing ok as you transition to the Instinct, then keep him on that.

The goal is that he will be healed with the homeopathic remedy, so he will not be so restricted in what he is able to eat.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Aug 28, 2014
Still diarrhea!!
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

Bear's diarrhea is continuing :(

2 days ago, I stopped the small amount of Honest Kitchen Raw chicken and flax dog food I was giving to Bear with his bland diet.

He is only eating boiled chicken breast and sweet potato. We are continuing with clay, probiotics Thuya (only 2 pellets dissolved in 2 ounces of water and giving him two droppers full per day) and rescue remedy.

Today I am doing a partial fast (so giving him half his normal food) but giving him plenty of clay and probiotics with each small meal (3 or 4 today) thinking he needs more support. Also I am giving him 3 caps of DGL plus (He was on this before for his Coccidia). DGL plus is mostly licorice and slippery elm.

Is there anything else I can do?? Or will it just take more time? He has to wake in the night for his diarrhea and he is having some blood in it.

Thank you!!!!
Mimi


Aug 31, 2014
My Online Vet Response For: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

August 30, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"He has to wake in the night for his diarrhea and he is having some blood in it."

Continue all of the above: kaopectate, probiotics, bland diet, Rescue Remedy, and DGL, but ****STOP**** the Thuya.

***Start the homeopathic remedy Phosphorus. See if you can find it in 12C or 30C.

Put one pellet in a 2 oz dropper bottle, fill with Spring Water, and give 1/2 dropperful by mouth every hour for 3 hours then every 8 hours for 2-3 days. Succuss (shake the bottle by hitting it against the palm of your hand) 20 times before each dose.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Aug 31, 2014
bear update
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman!

Since I wrote you last (two days ago I think), his stools are very, very runny, lots of mucous, but no blood. They are not firming at all. So even though the blood has stopped, I guess that means I will switch to the phosphorus? Also, he is itching his hind quarters a lot (chewing on them) this is kind of new I think.

Sep 01, 2014
Not sure which homeopathic remedy?
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I have not started the phosphorus yet. Bear's stools are improving. they are finally formed, but still soft with lots of mucous. There is no visible blood in his stool. I am only using DGL Plus, slippery elm, probiotics and rescue remedy and bland diet because I ran out of the clay.

I am not sure now whether to start on the Phosphorus, or stick with the Thuya? Thank you!

Sep 01, 2014
Not sure which homeopathic remedy?
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I have not started the phosphorus yet. Bear's stools are improving. they are finally formed, but still soft with lots of mucous. There is no visible blood in his stool. I am only using DGL Plus, slippery elm, probiotics and rescue remedy and bland diet because I ran out of the clay.

I am not sure now whether to start on the Phosphorus, or stick with the Thuya? Thank you!

Sep 01, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms, and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

September 1, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"I have not started the phosphorus...
Bear's stools are improving... formed...
still soft with lots of mucous.
There is no visible blood in his stool. I am only using DGL Plus, slippery elm, probiotics and rescue remedy and bland diet because I ran out of the clay."

"I am not sure now whether to start on the Phosphorus, or stick with the Thuya?"

As this has been a long standing chronic condition, and since Bear had some antibiotics, I believe that slowed or 'suppressed' his response to the homeopathic remedy Thuya.

*******Continue the Thuya*********

No need to switch to Phosphorus UNLESS you see blood in his stool, and or his stool is very watery and his bowel movements are very frequent, (as when you said he had to get up at night to have diarrhea.)

You may need to get some more Kaopectate, but continue the Thuya for the next 2-3 weeks. You can increase the quantity of each meal now that his stool is starting to improve. But I think you should continue only to feed *bland* food. He may need to have a B-12/B-vitamin injection one time per week over the next 3-4 weeks also. Your veterinarian can show you how to give the injections, so you can continue at home.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Sep 01, 2014
vitamin B-12 injections
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman
His stool is continuing to improve slightly and no blood. What do I tell my regular vet is the reason for his B-12 injections. Because of their training, they may or may not agree with the Vaccinosis diagnosis. I plan to start seeing a holistic vet soon.....but in the mean time, what do I tell them? Funny my vet claims to be trained in TCM and other holistic modalities but he still wanted to give Bear the Flagyl. Sigh. Can I get the B 12 on line? Or better from my vet. Thank you! (P.S. I feel very lucky to have found you!)
Mimi

Sep 01, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

September 1, 2014

Hi Mimi,

You wrote,
" What do I tell my regular vet is the reason for his B-12 injections. Because of their training, they may or may not agree with the Vaccinosis diagnosis."

You do not have to say anything about vaccinosis. I am assuming that your veterinarian is aware that Bear has had chronic diarrhea since August 19?

Due to the diarrhea, he has to be on a bland diet, which may be lacking in some vitamins. And with the loss of absorption of fluid due to the diarrhea, as B- vitamins are water soluble, he is probably deficient in vitamins!

Giving a B-12/B vitamin injections weekly is more in line with 'conventional' medicine to replenish loss of vitamins!

I would not know why your veterinarian would NOT give you the injections to give at home. (or maybe your veterinarian would prefer that you bring Bear in to the clinic for a tech to give them?) You can certainly buy B-12 and B-complex on line. But you also need to buy syringes and needles. The smallest bottle is 100cc. Bear only needs about 1-2cc one time per week for about 3-4 weeks! Hopefully, Bear will be recovering soon. I do not think you need to invest in a huge supple of B-12/B-complex!

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Sep 01, 2014
B12
by: Anonymous

Thank you for explaining that to me, Dr. TIllman. That makes perfect sense! :)

Sep 01, 2014
B12
by: Anonymous

Thank you for explaining that to me, Dr. TIllman. That makes perfect sense! :)

Sep 08, 2014
Finally want to start on raw/commercial food!
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

Bear's stools continue to be much better! Now we are doing only DGL-plus, Thuya 2 x per day, and rescue remedy, and bland diet of chicken and sweet potatoes. He is underwieght. Still working out with the vet about doing some b-12 shots. I would LOVE to transition him to raw food like Innovation (?) or the ones you recommned but I am afraid to bring back the diarrhea. Please if you have any recommendations on how to make this a smooth transition to new food from bland food. He is a BIG dog and cooking bland diet is a lot of work. Also if you can recommend a kibble for me to add in to complement his raw food since complete raw will put us in the poor house. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!! I pray his GI continues to heal!!!
Best,
Mimi

Sep 11, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

September 11, 2014

Dear Mimi,
That is wonderful that Bear is doing so well, and his stool is more normal.

You wrote,
" He is a BIG dog and cooking bland diet is a lot of work. .....if you can recommend a kibble for me to add in to complement his raw food since complete raw will put us in the poor house."

It would be an easier transition to add in some canned food to the bland diet FIRST. Continue that for a few days to make sure that he does not relapse with more diarrhea, then add in a little raw to the bland and canned food. And continue that for a few days, and with each addition of canned and raw, decrease the bland little by little. Until he is eating a 1/2 canned and 1/2 raw diet. If his stool is ok with this, then start to add in some dry food. The goal would be to have him eat diet with each meal composed of: 1/3 canned, 1/3 raw and 1/3 dry. At least this way 2/3 of his diet would be moist, which is MUCH easier for his GI tract to handle than the dry food. And, hopefully, this combination will be easier on your pocketbook, and ok with his GI tract!

Dry foods such as Innova, Nutro, Nature's Recipe, Halo, and Pet Guard, are all excellent foods. And they all come in a canned version too.

He will probably need a higher potency of the Thuya to carry him through to a complete cure, but he will need to have ongoing care and examinations with a holistic veterinarian to monitor his progress. And to write an exemption form to avoid future vaccinations.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Sep 11, 2014
Thuya
by: Anonymous

Dr. Tillman, I plan to get him to a holistic vet soon!

He is taking the Thuya 6c right now because that was all I could find. I just bought the 12c so I will give him that when it arrives. Do you think maybe another 6 weeks with the 12c 2x per day?

Is there anything else I should have on hand that you prefer if the diarhea returns? Or stick with clay and slippery elm if it returns? I saw someone else reference the Runnypoo product.

Thank you!

Sep 14, 2014
VERY loose stool with new canned food
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman
I tried to start transitioning Bear to some canned food with his bland diet. 1/4 canned was ok. (Nature's Variety Prairie holistic chicken and rice). But as SOON as I increased it to 1/2 can, he had very loose stools. I did increase it to 1/2 can in only 4 days. Do I need to go slower? I am so discouraged.

Thanks!
Mimi

Sep 14, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

September 14, 2014

Hi Mimi,
It is now time to switch to Phosphorus. There has been NO clear improvement from the time you have had him on the Thuya 6C since August 25. It is ok to continue with all other support, Probiotics, DGL, and adding in some of the canned food to the bland diet.

See if you can get the Phosphorus 12C or 30C. If you are able to get the 30C, (which is a common remedy at health food stores) then give Bear ONE dose ONE time daily for 3 days.

If you get the 12C, then you will need to give him one dose TWO times daily for the next 3 weeks.

You can dissolve two pellets into a 2oz glass dropper bottle, and shake/succuss the bottle 20 times, and give Bear 1/2 dropperful (equals one dose) by mouth of 12C or 30C.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

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Sep 16, 2014
Phosphorous
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I gave Bear the Phosphorous 30c for 3 days, tapping 20 times before dosing. His stools are good! He did vomit only bile this morning (He does this once every 2 weeks or so when his tummy is empty).

He is eating bland diet, DGL Plus, probiotics, rescue remedy, and 1/3 can of chicken/rice Nature's Variety.

I wanted to be sure that you only wanted him to have only 3 doses in 3 days of the Phosphorous 30c. (The other strength required 3 weeks?)

Should I stop the Phosphorous now?

Now should I continute with transitioning to a diet of 1/3 canned/1/3 dry and 1/3 Raw? Thank you!


Sep 16, 2014
Phosphorous
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I gave Bear the Phosphorous 30c for 3 days, tapping 20 times before dosing. His stools are good! He did vomit only bile this morning (He does this once every 2 weeks or so when his tummy is empty).

He is eating bland diet, DGL Plus, probiotics, rescue remedy, and 1/3 can of chicken/rice Nature's Variety.

I wanted to be sure that you only wanted him to have only 3 doses in 3 days of the Phosphorous 30c. (The other strength required 3 weeks?)

Should I stop the Phosphorous now?

Now should I continute with transitioning to a diet of 1/3 canned/1/3 dry and 1/3 Raw? Thank you!


Sep 19, 2014
Response to "Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia"
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"I wanted to be sure that you only wanted him to have only 3 doses in 3 days of the Phosphorous 30c."

"Should I stop the Phosphorous now?"

Yes. A 30C potency should only be given for a short time. Sometimes only one dose is needed, which will last for 3 weeks to 3 months.

You wrote,
"Now should I continue with transitioning to a diet of 1/3 canned/1/3 dry and 1/3 Raw?"

It may be a little too soon, as he did vomit 9/16. I would wait another 5 days, before slowly start adding in some of the raw.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Sep 30, 2014
Update on Bear!
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I have told several people about your site!

I can't believe how much better Bear is doing! He is eating 1/3 dry, 1/3 raw, 1/3 canned food. His poops are very good!!! After the 3 days of phosphorus we had no problem transitioning him to this diet!!

Since we last spoke, he has had one episode of vomiting bile in the morning before eating.

He is still taking the DGL Plus . How do I know when to taper him off of that?

Also, he has had a least one round of antibiotics in his short life (last year when he had Giardia) His ears smell a little yeasty. Is there something I can do for candida, or just keep adding in probiotics?

Thanks for helping Bear! We love him!!!

Sep 30, 2014
Update on Bear!
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I have told several people about your site!

I can't believe how much better Bear is doing! He is eating 1/3 dry, 1/3 raw, 1/3 canned food. His poops are very good!!! After the 3 days of phosphorus we had no problem transitioning him to this diet!!

Since we last spoke, he has had one episode of vomiting bile in the morning before eating.

He is still taking the DGL Plus . How do I know when to taper him off of that?

Also, he has had a least one round of antibiotics in his short life (last year when he had Giardia) His ears smell a little yeasty. Is there something I can do for candida, or just keep adding in probiotics?

Thanks for helping Bear! We love him!!!

Oct 07, 2014
Diarrhea is BACK!!
by: Anonymous

Hi dr Tillman
Bear's diarrhea is back. Do I give him the homeopathic remedy phosphorus again? He is on 1/3 kibble, 1/3 raw, 1/3 canned. Do I have to go back in bland diet? Why does the homeopathic remedy only work for 3 weeks? What is wrong with my dog?? Do I just give him the phosphorus as a single dose as needed until his gut is better? Please advise! Thank you!

Oct 07, 2014
Diarrhea follow up
by: Anonymous

Dr. while awaiting your reply I wanted to update you that I have given him one dose of the phosphorus (after shaking 20 times).

Thank you
Mimi

Oct 07, 2014
Diarrhea follow up
by: Anonymous

Dr. while awaiting your reply I wanted to update you that I have given him one dose of the phosphorus (after shaking 20 times).

Thank you
Mimi

Oct 07, 2014
Diarrhea follow up
by: Anonymous

Dr. while awaiting your reply I wanted to update you that I have given him one dose of the phosphorus (after shaking 20 times).

Thank you
Mimi

Oct 07, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 7, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"...I have given him one dose of the phosphorus (after shaking 20 times)."
Good job. That is what I would have advised.

Homeopathic remedies are given to treat the symptoms of the patient, and need to match the strength of the 'Vital Force' of the patient.

A 30C potency, which is what you have for the Phosphorus, is considered a low to medium potency. Considering how weak Bear's constitution would be to be infected with 3 intestinal parasites and have such chronic diarrhea, it is best to start low. As his vital force or immune system responds, and he becomes healthier, then repeat a dose to make his immune system a little healthier, and continue one dose at a time every 3-4 weeks or at longer intervals.

Over the next 3-6 months, when his improvement seems to 'plateau', meaning the 30C Phosphorus no longer seems to improve his symptoms, then he is ready for a higher potency.

You wrote,
"He is on 1/3 kibble, 1/3 raw, 1/3 canned. Do I have to go back in bland diet?"

No, I would continue the same mixture, as long as he responds to the Phosphorus, and his stool improves. If he is NOT improving, then he may need to return to the bland diet. Also, continue to add the acidophilus (probiotics) to each meal.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

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Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Oct 07, 2014
Phosphorous dose
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman!

I gave Bear the phosphorus dose from a glass dropper bottle I had prepared for him 3 weeks ago. Is this preparation ok, or should I make a fresh one?

Thank you!
Mimi

Oct 07, 2014
Phosphorous dose
by: Anonymous

Thank you Dr. Tillman!

I gave Bear the phosphorus dose from a glass dropper bottle I had prepared for him 3 weeks ago. Is this preparation ok, or should I make a fresh one?

Thank you!
Mimi

Oct 08, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 8, 2014

Hi Mimi,
You wrote,
"I gave Bear the phosphorus dose from a glass dropper bottle I had prepared for him 3 weeks ago. Is this preparation ok, or should I make a fresh one?"

That one is fine.

Homeopathic remedies stay 'good' for years. Unless they have been stored in direct sunlight, near electromagnetic sources, (computer, electric outlet, cell phone, etc.) They are NOT good if they are discolored, or have particles floating in them,in which case, I would make up a new batch.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

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Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Oct 16, 2014
Diarrhea follow up
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. Tillman

I gave Bear the 30C Phosphorus last week, and this time it only lasted 1 week and now his diarrhea is BACK so I am guessing I need to give him the stronger Phosphorus but of course I dont have any in the house. I gave Bear one more dose of the 30C this morning after his runny diarrhea and hoping I can get the next remedy ASAP. Could you tell me what Phosphorus remedy to buy? How long will I use the stronger remedy?

Thank you!

Mimi

Oct 16, 2014
Phosphorous dose
by: Anonymous

Hi Dr. TIllman

To update you I contacted Boiron and they told me a more diluted formula (phosphorus 1M) is only available through special order. I can try to go to Pharmica to have this ordered. Boiron said that 6C has more of the phosphorus concentrated in it. That would be available from Whole Foods or Pharmica

Which one do I get, or is there another one?
Thank you!!

Oct 17, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Severe Diarrhea in Dog with Giardia, Round Worms, and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 16, 2014

Hi Mimi,
It might be easier for you to make an appointment so that I can SEE Bear in my Walnut Creek office. I have all the potencies of Phosphorus 30C, 200C, 1M, etc. And doing a physical exam and discussing all of the details of his symptoms in person, would be the fastest way to help Bear.

In the meantime, it should be ok to give Phosphorus 30C every 8 hours for the next day or two.

Make sure you add acidophilus to each meal.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

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Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Oct 17, 2014
Appointment for Bear
by: Mimi

Hi Dr. Tillman

Your first available appointment is in 5 days. I have scheduled with your office. Should I continue the Phosphorus and probiotics every 8 hours until next Wednesday? I am also doing clay and smaller more frequent meals.

I look forward to meeting you!

Mimi

Oct 18, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Dog with Giardia, Roundworms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 17, 2014

Hi Mimi
That will be great to meet you and Bear. Until then, I suggest continue the Phosphorus 30C every 8 hours for only the next 3 days. He should start to respond in that time with an improvement in the stool.

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Oct 18, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Dog with Giardia, Roundworms and Coccidia
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 17, 2014

Hi Mimi
That will be great to meet you and Bear. Until then, I suggest continue the Phosphorus 30C every 8 hours for only the next 3 days. He should start to respond in that time with an improvement in the stool.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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