eye issues

by Joe
(Valley Stream, NY)

Left eye with glare

Left eye with glare

Left eye with glare Left eye without glare Right eye in the light Right eye less glare

My dog Snitter started gradually exhibiting cloudiness in his eyes about two years ago, most noticeably in his left eye, though there is some in his right eye, as well.

He is a 13 year old German Shorthaired Pointer/Greyhound mix. He's always had reddish eyes since he was a pup. In addition, he always had a ropy mucous that had to be cleaned throughout the day. A holistic vet years earlier had suggested that he was likely allergic to something.

There were no additional symptoms with the cloudiness initially. I brought him to a conventional vet, who couldn't determine a definitive diagnosis, except keratitis.

It didn't appear to be cataracts or glaucoma.

For the keratitis, he was prescribed Vetropolycin, which seemed to clear up the cloudiness (and a bit of the redness). He was kept on this twice a day for about two or so weeks. I brought him back to the vet, and she noticed improvement in the eyes, though she noted that it might return.

The vet recommended an ophthalmologist, but I couldn't afford one at the time. I began experimenting with different foods, as I suspected that allergies might play a role.

Snitter's always been on premium (usually organic, but always natural) dog food. After trying different ones, I put him back on his old standard (Castor & Pollux Organix), and he began--after a week or so--displaying additional symptoms in his eyes (particularly the left) that he'd never displayed prior, including sensitivity to light, itchiness (he would attempt to scratch) and a more intense cloudiness.


After another week of this, I took him off the food, and put him on Dick Van Patton's Natural Balance Vegetarian formula. All of the symptoms cleared up, and the cloudiness went back to the way it had been before. I've since kept him away from chicken and beef, as I suspect those may be the culprits he's allergic to.

I would like to get to the bottom of the issue, as I can tell that he doesn't see as well as he once did (especially in low-light), as he's a bit clumsier. I'd be more than willing to put him on some kind of holistic, herbal solution that you think would work.

I understand that it might simply be old age, and symptoms of nuclear sclerosis, but I don't want to assume that's what it is.

Aside from the Natural Balance Vegetarian food, he's on GreenDog Naturals Healthy Motion Joint Supplement and gets Hip Bones (made with tart cherry concentrate and natural ingredients) for his mobility (his back legs aren't as strong as they once were).

For his teeth, he gets ProDen's Plaque-Off when needed. He also gets some of my MacroLife's Macro Greens once a day (just as a green supplement.)

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My Online Vet Response for Eye Issues
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Joe,
Snitter's a cute dog, and certainly does not look his age! From the photos you took, it is difficult to do a complete eye exam, but you did give me a very good history.

From what I could determine from the photos, with a glare on the cornea of the left eye and the chronic 'red' eyes with ropey mucous discharge, I wondered if the conventional veterinarian did a Schirmer's Tear Test to determine if Snitter has dry eye. If his eye is not producing enough tears, the cornea will become edematous/thickened and appear hazy. The glands that line the eyelashes will attempt to compensate and increase their production of mucous, but this is not the same consistency as what the tear glands produce to keep the cornea moist at all times.

Using artificial tear ointment, or just olive oil, 3-4 drops into his eye every 3-4 hours should help provide moisture. If you use artificial tear drops (instead of ointment) you will need to apply it every hour.

In the meantime, he needs to have more moisture in his diet, including more Omega 3 fish oils. You are feeding him some very good quality food, but it is DRY food. See if you can mix in some raw turkey or lamb (and avoid the chicken and beef, if that may be what he has an allergy too.)

See our page on the 10 best dog food options and check out some raw diet options.

Add about 1,000mg of Omega 3 Fish oils for dogs to his diet two times daily. Another good 'eye' supplement is Iplex from Standard Process. He would need one capsule in food two times daily.

I would suggest a total blood panel also, to rule out internal problems. In Chinese medicine, the eyes serve as the outlet for the liver. Chronic red eyes, may indicate an underlying liver disease.

I would also include a heartworm test, and thyroid function in the blood test.

And, if possible, I would avoid dog vaccinations. If you are able to contact a holistic veterinarian to write an exemption form for Snitter, that would be ideal. Also, a holistic veterinarian would be able to determine a homeopathic remedy that would also help to treat his eyes.

find a holistic veterinarian in your areaClick here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area.


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Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.



Sound advice
by: Joe

Hey Dr. Tillman,

Appreciate the tips. He is in pretty good shape for his age! Aside from this eye-issue, and the relative "weakness" of his back-legs, he's never had an issue his entire life.

We just purchased fish-oil, so that'll work. I'll also go about getting some drops of olive-oil into his eyes. The former will be easier than the latter (he's accustomed to drinking my almond milk, so I don't think he'll balk at fish-oil).

As regards vaccines, my vet knows I'm 'non-compliant'. I feel that the initial ones are sufficient for the life of the animal. Booster shots are potentially harmful at worst, and unneccessary at best.

I used to subscribe to the Whole Dog Journal, which featured an annual Best-Foods list. I look forward to comparing your list to theirs.

I'll get on the blood-work asap, as well. He's overdue for a vet-visit anyway.

Thanks again!
Joe

My Online Vet Response for Eye Issues
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi Joe,
You are very welcome. Keep us posted on the lab results. I am more than happy to help you interpret any discrepancies.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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thyroid good diagnoses NEW
by: Anonymous

With hind leg weakness and eyes dry and cloudy also if there is a weight problem it is thyroid related and need thyroid test asap to get pup on thyroid hormone.. i had to diagnose my wolf by myself and barely saved her life. she was a mess lossed hair, eyes dry and cloudy. insullin not regulated and weakness in her back legs then started rapid weight loss and nerveous all the time stressed, scratching and eating grass. I started her on thyroid hormone also Nuvet natural vitimins with 3 a day for her 130 weight and legs became stronger, hair grew back and itchy stopped but still having dry eyes and cloudy also insullin stable at 15 u abotu 1/2 the dose they had her on but after last test they reduced thyroid to one 6 mg a day and I don't trust any vet around here when they kept blaming weight and diabetes iregular on me without even looking for the underlying cause that she almost died from and several times appeared low blood sugar symptoms that had vet assist concerned enought to check but blood sugar not issue and believe she was close to coma from thyroid that was ignored by everyone and was 0 with Eurothyroid diagnosed in one of her first medical records that I had not even been informed about with all her problems with weight and insullin changing then infections dehydration repeated low blood sugar epidsodes and a year of vet visits for compliations of thyroid that was IGNORED so thyroid should be number 1 to check if dog is losing fur, weight problems dry eyes and hind leg weakness, asap thyroid because it will not heal without natural or prescription and coma could result from non treatment

My Online Vet Response for: Eye issues NEW
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hello Anonymous,
Sorry to hear about your dog's problems, and I am glad the she is doing better now.

For Joe's dog Snitter, in the last post, I DID suggest a thyroid test be included in the blood panel.

I wrote:
"I would suggest a total blood panel also, to rule out internal problems. In Chinese medicine, the eyes serve as the outlet for the liver. Chronic red eyes, may indicate an underlying liver disease.

I would also include a heartworm test, and thyroid function in the blood test."

I am not sure if any of the veterinarians you consulted with were holistic or not. Perhaps, that would have made a difference.

To find a holistic veterinarian in your area click on the link below
Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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