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Dog Itching on Multiple Body Parts; Causing Scabs & Hair Loss

by John L.
(Alhambra, CA, Los Angeles)

moxie behind

moxie behind

moxie behind
moxie side

We have a 4 year old border collie mix female spayed, who every so often used to get skin rashes and once in a while her itching got worse. Temaril-P seems to be the only thing to help her.


For the past two and a half weeks she has been scratching a lot behind her ears and sides, and licking and biting her paws, rear and sides to the point that she has scabs from the scratching. Also, she has bite wounds on her rear and sides, and lost hair. Just to clarify, the rash is localized in the areas mentioned above.

Around three weeks ago we stopped giving her Temaril-P because we were concerned of the side effects to her in the long run and because we had some credibility issues with her current vet and the treatment provided to another of our dogs. We have been treating her hot spots with witch hazel and giving her benadryl 25 mlg in tablet form and no luck in controlling the issue.

We continue giving her benadryl and we switched to apple vinegar to help clean the hot spots. It seems to help but temporarily. We also gave her a baking soda bath to relieve the itchiness but again it is temporarily. For over a year and a half now we switched her food to be grain free (B.G.-before grain brand) and every other day we give her one omega 3 and glucosamine tablet.

Our question is what can we give her to control, what we think to be environmental allergies, that it is organic or at least not steroidal with horrible future side effects?

We believe it is environmental because once in a while after going to the park she gets a small rash on her behind and after a bath with oatmeal shampoo she seems to get better. This was of course when she was taking Temaril-P daily. She rarely sneezes and has good appetite but lately she does not even what to eat much her dry food but does eat carrots and some treats.

Your help and advice is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Moxie's parents

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Jul 10, 2012
My Online Vet Response for: Dog Itching on Multiple Body Parts; Causing Scabs & Haiir Loss
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi John,
From the photos you submitted of Moxie's skin, it looks like she probably has inhaled allergies, flea allergies, and some mild secondary bacterial infection from self trauma.

Initially, she may have started off with only inhaled allergies, but after being suppressed with Temeril-P for a few years she then developed some other allergies, and now the secondary bacteria. Treatment with drugs to merely suppress her 'itch' is not the best route to good health for Moxie.

Plan:
1. Diet: grain free is a step in the right direction, but no more DRY DOG FOOD. Gradually switch her to a canned diet. See our page on 10 Best Dog Food Options and especially consider a RAW dog food diet.

2. Omega 3 Fish oils - at least 1,000mg 1-2 times daily added to food.

3. Glucosamine - 1,200 mg minimum for a 50lb dog.

4. Oatmeal shampoo - 1-2 times per week for 3-4 weeks, then bathe less often as she improves. This will serve TWO functions: first, to cleanse her skin and remove surface bacteria and second, to calm her skin and help decrease her itching.

5. Rescue Remedy (Bach Flower Essence) - dilute 20 drops into a 4 oz pump spray bottle with Spring Water to spray on feet, behind ears, sides, and any other itchy area. Rescue Remedy is good to 'calm' down the skin, and will help to 'calm' down Moxie as she licks her feet, or chews at her sides. You can keep the bottle in the refrigerator, so it will be cold when you spray it on her. This may also help to 'cool' down her hot, itchy skin. It is available in Health Food stores.

6. FLEA CONTROL - use EVOLV made of cedar oil. Can be sprayed onto a bandana and tied around her neck, or sprayed onto her skin, after her bath two times per week to repel fleas, ticks, etc. See our page on Dog Flea Treatment for additional suggestions.

TO BE CONTINUED IN PART TWO

Jul 10, 2012
My Online Vet Response for: Dog Itching on Multiple Body Parts; Causing Scabs & Hair Loss PART TWO
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi John,
Here is the second part of my response.

7. NO VACCINATIONS FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS. You will need an exemption from a holistic veterinarian, to 'excuse' her from the Rabies vaccination.

8. Try Antronex from Standard Process as a natural 'anti-histamine'. It acts as a liver support to help the liver remove histamine from the skin.

9. Homeopathic remedies, depending on Moxie's constitution, for strengthening her vital force after years of suppression with conventional drugs, to improve her health.

10. Supplements to boost her immune system, such as Missing Link or Mega C.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.



Jul 11, 2012
Thanks
by: John

Hello Dr. Tillman,

Thank you so much for the detailed information you provided us to get Moxie's health back on track. It is nice to read that we are already doing some good things for her.
Sincerely,
John






Jul 24, 2012
Moxie' skin irritation
by: John

Hi Dr. Tillman: How much or how often should we give Moxie the Antronex?

Jul 25, 2012
My Online Vet Response for: Dog Itching on Multiple body parts causing scabs hair loss
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi John,
Regarding the Antronex by Standard Process: Give Moxie one tablet 2 times daily.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman


DISCLAIMER: This educational advice is based on the depth of your question and the picture you submitted. The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.



Jul 28, 2012
Concern
by: John

Hello Dr. Tillman,

Sadly, today our Moxie took a turn for the worst. Last night she had a bad reaction to something unknown to us. We did not give her anything new food-wise and in the night we noticed she had a rash all over her chest, legs, and back.

The only thing I did hours before was spray her with the Rescue Remedy. Today after we returned from visiting family we noticed that she had one eye lid and her snout swollen and bumps all over.

We are really concerned and we understand that it takes time but is it something like the antronex needs to build up in her body to see changes or should we try something else?

Thank you so much for your help.
Moxie's parents

Jul 30, 2012
My Online Vet Response for: Dog itching on Multiple Body parts: causing scabs & hair loss
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

Hi John,
From your description of Moxie, it sounds like she has had some kind of severe allergic reaction. Alternative treatments with homeopathic remedies would best be done by a holistic veterinarian that can do a physical exam.

Otherwise, I suggest she have either an injection of Benedryl, or some oral Benedryl. If she is not improved, or her condition is worsening, she may need an injection of Epinephrine or Dexamethasone. These are not holistic suggestions, but I do not want her to have an anaphylactic reaction (shock) if she is worsening.

Further workup by a holistic veterinarian would be best for ongoing care of her chronic skin condition.

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

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Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Oct 28, 2014
dog scabies dog mange
by: Anonymous

It looks like dog mange sometimes called dog scabies.

Oct 31, 2014
My Online Vet Response For: Dog Itching on Multiple Body Parts; Causing Scabs & Hair Loss
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

October 31, 2014

Dear Anonymous,
There has been no update, or any response from Moxie's owners, on her condition over the past two years.

From the photos they submitted of her skin, it did NOT look like scabies, (Sarcoptic Mange, http://www.organic-pet-digest.com/how-to-treat-dog-mange.html#Sarcoptic).

Although, sarcoptic mange is extremely itchy, it does not come on acutely in a few hours, as Moxie's skin problem.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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