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Black Spot In Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging

by Christine





I a,m concerned about a possible serious problem in one of my dog's eyes. She is almost 7 years old and has a history of environmental allergies, and definite food allergies and intolerances. Her stomach is very sensitive and doesn't seem to fight off bad bacteria well.


She has had several extended periods of diahrrea when this bad bacteria builds up which have been treated with antibiotics, but fecal reports don't show any parasites or other infections.

She is fed an all raw diet, gets sardine/cod liver oil supplemented, and I use an organic digestive enzyme/probiotic supplement as well. I am in the process of adding in some immune support supplements as well as soon as they arrive in the mail.

Other than this, she has been healthy.

I recently noticed a black spot appear in the iris of her eye (at the bottom)... I have been watching it and it doesn't seem to have changed in size, doesn't float around and has fairly regular edges. At the end of last week, I noticed that eye looking somewhat bigger and bulging out a little.

Her pupils react when I shine a light in them, she doesn't seem bothered any of this at all,;but I do think I notice a slight milky/greenish tint in certain lights and angles and am not certain if that is normal. I am concerned with the possible development of cataracts, tumors, glaucoma, etc...

Is there anything I can do at home to try to reduce the bulging? I am planning to take her to the vet as soon as possible, but it would be better for schedule and finances to wait until after the first of the year; however, if this is something that has the potential to get really bad/harmful within a 2-3 week span, I will figure out how to get her there sooner. I

Also, her eyes water after eating and sometimes after being outside and on occasion, I see some mild redness in the whites of her eyes.

Thank you for your advice,
Christine

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Dec 22, 2014
My Online Vet Response for: Black Spot in Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

December 22, 2014

Hi Christine,
From the photos you took, one photo shows what may be a iris cyst in the lower quadrant of her left eye. None of the other photos are close enough to make out any detail. An iris cyst is benign, and does not cause any problems such as glaucoma or bulging of the eye, or change in pupil size.

Since you are noticing this bulging, (which I cannot tell from the photos) I suggest you take her in for an exam with a veterinary ophthalmologist as soon as possible for a measurement of her intra-ocular pressure. Although, some conventional veterinarians also have a **tonometer**(an instrument to measure the IOP), in their office, which might be less expensive to have checked compared to an ophthalmologist. Usually, with glaucoma the pupil is dilated, so you will notice a difference in size between the two pupils. The pupil of the affected eye will usually become dilated early in the course of the condition. It may still react to all bright light shining in it, but it will do so very slowly. If the pupil in one eye is larger than in the other, something is definitely wrong and it may be glaucoma.

I commend you on the choice of a raw diet, and it sounds like you are working to help improve her immune system to help her 'sensitive' stomach.

Please keep us posted on her eye, after you have seen the ophthalmologist and/or have the IOP measured. There may be a homeopathic remedy that is helpful.

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Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Dec 23, 2014
Thank you
by: Christin

Thank you for your timely response. I am feeling better about her eye and was able to get a better look at her pupils in the outside light this morning. I believe her pupils are similar in size both when more constricted (outside) when they are more dilated in the house. I posted the further away pictures to maybe show the bulging or slight difference in eye size, but feel as though maybe it isn't as bad as I was thinking if you aren't noticing it immediately. I have been applying a warm compress which seems to have maybe helped.

As far as helping her immune system and regarding use of digestive enzymes, if there is a particular brand of supplement you recommend, I would appreciate that knowledge. I am just trying various supplements going off my own research, which is simply reading and trying to make educated decisions, but I really know nothing for sure regarding what will help her overall health. So any recommendations for specific brands would be great.

Thank you so much,
Christin Smith
csmithslp77@gmail.com

Dec 23, 2014
My Online Vet Response For: Black Spot In Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

December 23, 2014

Hi Christin,

A good 'overall' supplement that I recommend is from Standard Process called, 'Canine Whole Body Support'. It is available from amazon.com.

https://www.standardprocess.com/Products/Veterinary-Formulas/Canine-Whole-Body-Support#.VJmxu3cSg


Here are some more specific immune supplements.

1. Missing Link Canine Formula
2. Immuplex from Standard Process
3. OrthoMolecular Specialties, Mega C Powder

I suggest checking out the Mega C for your dog, as it also contains good amounts of vitamin A that is important for healthy eye tissue. It was developed by a veterinarian for supporting the immune system in dogs and cats.

To find a holistic veterinarian in your area click on the link below
Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Dec 23, 2014
Thank you
by: Christin

Thank you so much for the supplement recommendation.. I will definitely be looking into those!

Dec 23, 2014
25g vs. 100g
by: Christin

In looking at the canine whole body support, I am not sure if I would want the 25gram or 100 gram bottle? My dog is typically 58-62ish pounds in weight?

Thank you,
Christin

Dec 23, 2014
My Online Vet Response For: Black Spot in Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr Carol Jean Tillman

December 23, 2014

Hi Christin,
You wrote,
"I am not sure if I would want the 25gram or 100 gram bottle?"

You should go with the larger size, as that will provide 70 servings, at 1/2-3/4 tsp per serving, enough for a little over one month. Your dog should take it for at least 2-3 months, if not longer depending on her eye problem.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

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Dec 28, 2014
supplements
by: Christin

in regards to using supplements to help my dogs overall health and immune system, would using the canine whole body support, omegas ( sardine/anchovy oil as she is allergic to salmon), digestive enzymes and a probiotic provide a comprehensive panel?

I also purchased some immune support (immugen by Thorne research), but am not sure if she needs this on top of everything listed above? I don't want to "over-do" it so to speak and certainly don't want to give more than her sensitive stomach can handle.

Thanks,
Christin
Csmithslp77@gmail.com

Dec 28, 2014
supplements
by: Christin

in regards to using supplements to help my dogs overall health and immune system, would using the canine whole body support, omegas ( sardine/anchovy oil as she is allergic to salmon), digestive enzymes and a probiotic provide a comprehensive panel?

I also purchased some immune support (immugen by Thorne research), but am not sure if she needs this on top of everything listed above? I don't want to "over-do" it so to speak and certainly don't want to give more than her sensitive stomach can handle.

Thanks,
Christin
Csmithslp77@gmail.com

Dec 29, 2014
My Online Vet Response For: Black Spot in Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr Carol Jean Tillman

December 29, 2014

Hi Christin,

The Immugen by Thorne is a great supplement specifically for the immune system. You would not 'over do' it if you used it in combination with the Canine Whole Body support, with the Omega 3 oils, probiotics, and digestive enzymes.

In addition to a RAW diet. Since it will provide a natural source of Vitamin C, amino acids and enzymes that are NOT available in a cooked, commercially processed diet.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman


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Dec 29, 2014
thank you
by: Christin

great, thank you for the information. I began the whole body supplement and am waiting to see if she seems to become itchy in response to it, and am hoping not.

Since I feed her raw and she has so many things it seems she doesn't do well eating, I just want to make sure she's getting everything she needs, but also don't want to be giving more than is necessary!

Thank you for the guidance! it helps greatly!

Dec 29, 2014
thank you
by: Christin

great, thank you for the information. I began the whole body supplement and am waiting to see if she seems to become itchy in response to it, and am hoping not.

Since I feed her raw and she has so many things it seems she doesn't do well eating, I just want to make sure she's getting everything she needs, but also don't want to be giving more than is necessary!

Thank you for the guidance! it helps greatly!

Jan 12, 2015
immugen by Thorne
by: Christin

hello again,

I tried introducing the immugen support by Thorne yesterday...I gave half of the recommended dose, but even this seems to have upset my dogs stomach. She had diarrhea this morning. Is this normal? I am not sure if I should continue trying this supplement with her or not? I also have the standard process immune support and am wondering if she may tolerate that better....also, the canine whole body support by standard process was recommended and she does seem to tolerate that well; however, I am curious as to what exactly she is getting from it? And how it is different from the immune support? Does she really need both? Any info would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Christin Smith

Jan 12, 2015
immugen by Thorne
by: Christin

hello again,

I tried introducing the immugen support by Thorne yesterday...I gave half of the recommended dose, but even this seems to have upset my dogs stomach. She had diarrhea this morning. Is this normal? I am not sure if I should continue trying this supplement with her or not? I also have the standard process immune support and am wondering if she may tolerate that better....also, the canine whole body support by standard process was recommended and she does seem to tolerate that well; however, I am curious as to what exactly she is getting from it? And how it is different from the immune support? Does she really need both? Any info would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Christin Smith

Jan 13, 2015
My Online Vet Response for: Black Spot in Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr Carol Jean Tillman

January 13, 2015

Hi Christin,

The Thorne Immugen contains 175 mg Ascorbic Acid, and may be the cause of your dog's digestive upset causing the diarrhea.

The Standard Process Canine Whole Body Support also contains ascorbic acid, but it is almost the last ingredient, so only a very small quantity is in each serving. And it does contain quite a few of the same ingredients as the Canine Immune Support, below. Many of the Standard Process products will 'over-lap' their ingredients.

Standard Process Canine Immune Support has the fewest ingredients of all, and contains mostly those ingredients to support the lymph nodes, and other immune systems in the body.

I think she might do better with the Canine Whole Body Support especially if you know that she tolerates it well.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.

Jan 13, 2015
Thank you
by: Christin

okay, thank you. So then Am I correct in that the canine whole body support is a supplement that should help the immune system/ general overall health of the animal and if using that (in conjunction with raw diet, enzymes, omegas and probiotics), then I shouldn't necessarily need the specific immune support products as well?

Seems that that should be enough!

Thanks again for all of the input!

Jan 17, 2015
My Online Vet Response for: Black Spot in Dog's Iris & Eye Bulging
by: Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

January 16, 2015

Hi Christen,

You wrote,
"The Canine Whole Body Support is a supplement that should help the immune system/ general overall health of the animal and if using that (in conjunction with raw diet, enzymes, omegas and probiotics), then I shouldn't necessarily need the specific immune support products as well?"

Yes, you are correct!

Click here to find a holistic veterinarian in your area. Another resource for vets knowledgeable in homeopathy is AVH.org.

Please keep us posted by coming back to this page and clicking the 'click here to add your own comments' link below.

Take care,
Dr. Carol Jean Tillman

P.S. If you've found this service or our web site helpful, please "Like" us by clicking the like button at the top of the left margin. Thank you!

DISCLAIMER: The above should never replace the advice of your local veterinarian, as they have the ability to evaluate your dog in person.

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